Re: Global warning – on recess, late to return to class


Lorin Olsen <cyclingroo@gmail.com> Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM
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Joe,

 

You’re either congratulating me on my compositional skills or you are calling me a really old fart.  Since I know that you are older than I am, I’ll assume the former and thank you for the honor! 😉
The initial steps are already underway.  The “tea party” movement is an amazing outgrowth of the most recent election.  And depending upon its long-term success, it might even be worth some of the idiocy we’ve seen thus far.  It is especially important as it is not associated with any specific political party (though there are a whole lot of Republicans).  But like the original “tea party” of Boston, the flagrant acts of those dressed like Indians gave way to the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the US Constitution.  So I see the current “tea party” movement as a means of lighting the fires of dissent – and encouraging all the people to look forward to what the future holds.
I don’t know if I’m ready to endorse a party or a platform.  And I’m certainly not ready to form a party.  But I am ready to endorse some radical ideas: our government should be of the people, by the people and for the people. Those citizens (and elected citizens) who act in violation of this principle (i.e., the Republicans and the Democrats) should be voted out of office.  And I am very serious when I say that I will be voting every single incumbent out of office.  I call it the TBO campaign.
And I think the people (not the Republican party) need to build a contract with their future employees.  We need to lay out our terms & conditions for employment of our civil servants.  And we need to ask any candidate (of any party) whether they will sign our “Contract With Americans” pledge.  I want them to sign a document as we are going to hold them accountable to it.  It will be their employment contract.
– The first article of the contract will be term limits.  Every signer will agree to no more than eight years (or two terms in the case of the Senate).
– The second article will be a commitment to the national defense.  This includes defending our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.  We will defend our borders against illegal encroachment – and poaching of jobs.
– The third article will be strict fiscal discipline.  This includes an agreement to balance the federal budget each and every year.  If they want more money, they must obtain it first.  The only exception to this rule will be exigencies required by the second article (i.e., defense).
– I’m toying with the idea of a fourth article (or a subordinated element of the third article) addressing taxation.  In particular, we need a flat/fair tax – no exemptions, no deductions, no exclusions, no kidding.
So is this a good enough start?  Do you want to be a charter signatory to the Contract With Americans pledge?  Our side of the contract will be simple: we will vote for those who sign the pledge and we will vote against those who do not sign and/or break this pledge.
Who’s in?
Sincerely,
Lorin
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Joe Bell <Address suppressed> wrote:

Lorin,
Are you sure you didn’t help Thomas with the Declaration wording back in ’76?
What are the initial steps/actions you’re considering?
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From: Lorin Olsen [mailto:cyclingroo@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Global warning – on recess, late to return to class
Team,
I truly love this stuff.  A group of thieves broke into someone’s email.  And now, the global warming skeptics are all atwitter about the evidence that was released.  Don’t get me wrong.  I think that man-made global warming is a farce that was created in order to fuel the rapacious self-interest of the loony left.  Like they don’t have enough power already???
But let’s not lionize criminals. Nor should we take everything they released at face value.  There are those in the military-industrial complex that won’t be at the table if the Copenhagen crowd gets its way.  So I’m just as leery about the skeptics as I am about the enthusiasts.
The thing that troubles me the most is that this whole debate is not about science.  It is about the concentration of political power in the hands of individuals and corporations.  Worse still, there are no “checks and balances” for the folks that are gaining power these days.  Think Obama czars on steroids.
At this time, I am all about the American people demonstrating that we are in charge.  It is now US vs. THEM.   I’m ready to start working to form a conservative/populist movement.  If they are an incumbent, they are part of the problem.  And they need to go.  Both parties have proven that they will suckle at the teat of privilege – and force us to pay for their dining pleasure.  Every one of them needs to go.  Who’s with me?
Sincerely,
Lorin
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Irwin Kraus <Address suppressed> wrote:
Yes, this was in the MSM (Associated Press) today. Interesting.


From: <Address suppressed>
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Sent: Sat Nov 21 21:55:02 2009
Subject: Re: Global warning – on recess, late to return to classJoe,I sent this out to Irwin today I thought it might be something you would enjoy if you missed it.Laird

 

HMMM Hackers break great story on GLOBAL WARMING HOAX, some of it may not be true but I like how the “scienists” who’s email was hacked DON’T DENY THE EMAILS ARE ACCURATE” they refuse comment except to condemn the hackers.More to follow? I bet there will be!



Climate sceptics claim leaked emails are evidence of collusion among scientists | Environment | guar
Source: www.guardian.co.uk
Hundreds of emails and documents exchanged between world’s leading climate scientists stolen by hackers and leaked online
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Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 12:48:05 AM
Subject: RE: Global warning – on recess, late to return to classIt seems some of our more learned people are finally getting the point.  Our climate is the result of as many things outside of the Earth (e.g., variations in Sun’s energy output) as the things on or in the Earth.  Plus, looking 100, 200, 500 or even 5000 years of history of Earth’s climate is just not nearly enough.  5000 years is just a drop in the bucket over the lifetime of the Earth (5+- billion years:  = 5000 x 1000 x 1000 or one millionth of the Earths total lifetime). .  We need to know how many times the Earth has been here and done that without any help from puny humans.  Then maybe we can begin to narrow down on the real cause/effect relationships in climate change.Ask Irwin or Lorin or Roger L, or Roger Claus or Philip or Nathan or Shawn or Ted, or Bill, or Larry, ….. what would have happened to any capacity plan that used (1/1,000,000th) of the available historical resource usage data to project the next 12 – 24 months of computer utilization.  The people doing these projections for global warming, are at best pseudo scientists.  The people trying to turn this pseudo science into a cause or a religion are at best charlatans.jb<Name & phone numbers suppressed>

 

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”  –Winston Churchill
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From: <Address suppressed>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:16 PM
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Subject: Global warning – on recess,late to return to class
From the Wall Street Journal…
November 20, 2009 — 4:21 p.m. EST
Losing Faith?
“Global warming appears to have stalled,” reports Der Spiegel. “Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years”:
At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.
Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth’s average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year. . . .
Even though the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend, it does raise doubts about the predictive value of climate models, and it is also a political issue. For months, climate change skeptics have been gloating over the findings on their Internet forums. This has prompted many a climatologist to treat the temperature data in public with a sense of shame, thereby damaging their own credibility.
“It cannot be denied that this is one of the hottest issues in the scientific community,” says Jochem Marotzke, director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg. “We don’t really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point.”
Why in the world should one take seriously the claim that “the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend”? That is presumably no more than a prediction made by the same people whose predictions are currently not panning out. This quote is telling:
The planet’s temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. “At present, however, the warming is taking a break,” confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany’s best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. “There can be no argument about that,” he says. “We have to face that fact.”
If global warming is really the horror it has been made out to be, its absence ought to be a gift to be celebrated, not a “fact” that “we have to face.” But global warmism isn’t a scientific theory anymore; it is an ideology in which many people, including those who are supposed to be doing science, have invested their prestige and money.

Lorin Olsen
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